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Mark Penn, Stan Greenburg and James Carville all think Obama is messing up. Hmmm, who are they all aligned with at one time or another.......? Clinton Advisers Unload On Obama's Economic Message: 'What Were They Thinking?' Posted: 11-18-10 10:33 AM WHAT'S YOUR REACTION? Important Funny Typical Scary Outrageous Amazing Innovative Finally Read More: Ecnomic Message Obama Economic Message, Greenberg Carville, James Carville, Obama Carville, Obama Economic Message, Obama Greenberg, Obama White House, Stan Greenberg, Politics News 87 309 views 2,227 Get Politics Alerts EmailComments 2,226 WASHINGTON -- Two of the top consultants in the Democratic Party leveled unusually blunt criticisms on Thursday over what they deemed a "total mis-framing" of an economic message by the Obama White House. Speaking at a breakfast organized by the Christian Science Monitor, Democracy Corps founders James Carville and Stan Greenberg conceded that the party had been bound to suffer a drubbing at the polls in 2010, owing to a recession that had produced a lingering 9.5 percent unemployment rate. But a 60-seat loss in the House could have been something closer to a 35-seat loss, they argued, had the administration effectively communicated a sense of urgency and indignation over the economic crisis. "During the campaign... their message of 'what we are doing is working,' people would get mad, okay," said Carville. "Most kind of messaging is not very effective, it just goes in one ear out the other. This one, it went in one ear and right to the brain. What were they thinking? It was almost universal. And as opposed to saying 'These irresponsible, greedy people got us into this mess and we are the only thing between you and them, and we are fighting every day and we understand.' We kept telling them, don't tell them it's working... The White House had the best and brightest. But they mis- underestimated this." "A metaphor about a car in the ditch when people are in trouble and angry at Wall Street is just out of touch with what is going on," Greenberg said, with respect to the president's closing argument during 2010 cycle. Pointing to the polling data he had seen in the lead up to the vote, he added: "At one point, any framework tested better than trying to make the case for success." It is a tried and true feature of the consulting profession to profess knowledge of the solutions and answers to most political problems, especially after those problems have occurred. And as it was pointed out at later moments, both Carville and Greenberg (both frequent guests at the Christian Science Monitor breakfast) had offered faulty analysis before -- mainly in predicting back in 2008 that the Democratic Party was posed to enter an era of longterm political dominance. That said, both are veterans of the Clinton White House and, in turn, had front row seats for the last mid-term electoral shellacking Democrats suffered. So the prescriptions they offered carried a modicum of weight. The two insisted that it was too early to demand that heads roll or that policy platforms dramatically change. Those would come with time, as they did after Clinton's major losses in 1994. "I'm skeptical that there is a parallel Dick Morris," said Greenberg, referencing Clinton's long-trusted adviser (now Fox News analyst and devout conservative) who was brought on board to right the ship after 1994. The big disconnect: D.C. elites think Obama will be reelected, but the public doubts it 297 CommentsRSSEmailPrint By MARK PENN | 11/15/10 10:29 PM EST Updated: 11/16/10 5:08 PM EST The midterms not only dealt a big shock to Democrats but also sent a message to President Barack Obama. According to the new POLITICO Power and the People poll, only 26 percent of the public believes he will be reelected as president in 2012. Inside the Beltway, however, expectations are quite different, with D.C. elites saying he will have a second term by a reverse 2 to 1 margin. (49 percent say re-elected; 23 percent say not). This difference in expectations could mislead the president if he is listening to the Beltway chatter — right here in D.C., he may just find a lot of comfort in this assessment by insiders, and that may lead to actions that don’t fully adjust for the sea change that has occurred among the general public. (See also Poll: D.C. Sees Midterms Differently) Continue Reading Text Size -+resetListen VIDEO: POLITICO poll analysis Latest on POLITICO Drawing the line on tax breaks VIDEO: POLITICO Playback 2 frosh to decline health benefits Perez scores Blago interview VP: Obama 'in good shape' vs. Palin Miller seeks to block Alaska decision POLITICO 44 This big difference can partially be explained by the different ways that the two groups see the economy and the world today. Seventy percent of D.C. elites admit that they have been affected less than the average citizen when it comes to the economic downturn. The elites see the tea party as purely a fad (70 percent). In contrast, those who say that the president will not be reelected see the country as headed in the wrong direction by 82 percent, see the economy as headed in the wrong direction by 81 percent and overwhelmingly want repeal of the health care law at the top of the agenda. The quarter of the public who consider Obama's reelection probable see the economy turning around by nearly 3-to-1. They are the outliers of the electorate, suggesting that the president has a lot more work to do to get back on track for a second term. Get the full poll results In 1994, President Bill Clinton heard the message loud and clear — he was facing both houses in the hands of the Republican Party, so he moved aggressively to the center and remade his White House and his policies. But not every president is willing to take that kind of aggressive action to change course. The discontent of the electorate has been pretty clear since Scott Brown of Massachusetts filled the late Sen. Ted Kennedy’s seat with an upset Republican victory. The administration depicted that as an isolated event based on a supposedly weak Democratic campaign and candidate. And so all the way up to the midterms, the president made few policy or personnel changes. It should be clear now that the public believes it sent a very clear message to the president that it wants new policies — particularly when it comes to government spending and health care. The public wants him to move back to the center and focus on the economy. D.C. elites can, of course, sometimes be right over the public. But in this case the administration has the electoral carnage of the midterms as proof that the public is fully prepared to vote in more Republicans unless it sees more changes than it saw in the months since Brown was elected. There will be a tempting comfort to the president to stay the course; the poll results show that staying the course may be quite perilous. Mark Penn is president and CEO of Penn Schoen Berl Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/45136.html#ixzz15kNO2E7m
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