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> On Jun 18, 2016, at 9:29 PM, hbiden@rosemontseneca.com wrote:
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> Too late?
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> RHB
> 202-333-1880
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>> On Jun 18, 2016, at 7:25 PM, Debbie Schechter <deb6069@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Call if you can
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>>> On Jun 18, 2016, at 6:45 PM, hbiden@rosemontseneca.com wrote:
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>>> Kath sent this to me today- which seems so insincere in light of everything.
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>>> "Let's put aside our issues for sake of girls. Email wasn't meant to upset you - I just wanted you to be a part of the discussion. If you don't want me involved, I won't be."
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>>> Seems really manipulative and disingenuous to me after yesterday. Particularly after speaking with Naomi and Finnegan and hearing what they had to say and the things their mother said to them about me- very hurtful and vindictive things that I could never imagine saying about her to my children even if they were true.
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>>> RHB
>>> 202-333-1880
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>>>> On Jun 18, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Debbie Schechter <deb6069@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> Sorry just saw this
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>>>> Lots to think about
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>>>> For now I hope you have a peaceful day and that tomorrow is full of connection and love
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>>>> Hard day for you all
>>>> Second without beau
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>>>> So meaningful that you can be there for Natalie and Hunter and your father and have your three girls there for you
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>>>>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 11:02 PM, Hunter Biden <hbiden@rosemontseneca.com> wrote:
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>>>>> If she says we one more time as if it's her and the girls standing lone against a giant conspiracy of "our family" and the Drs / Counselors / therapists who all obviously would rather me die a tragic death then understand she alone knows what's in my best interest.
>>>>>
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>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
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>>>>>> From: Kathleen Biden <kathleenbiden@mac.com>
>>>>>> Date: June 17, 2016 at 9:07:34 PM EDT
>>>>>> To: George Kolodner <gkolodner@kolmac.com>
>>>>>> Cc: "hbiden@rosemontseneca.com" <hbiden@rosemontseneca.com>, Babette Wise <Babette.wise@gmail.com>, Debbie Schechter <deb6069@gmail.com>, Elaine Altmire <ealtmire@kolmac.com>, Hunter Biden <rhb@rspdc.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Hunter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Dr Kolodner. I was just looking for clarity. So we will proceed as if Hunter is working the program unless we hear otherwise? We shouldn't know what the treatment entails? We are really appreciative of you leading his program. We just want to know what we should be doing and who we should be talking to for support. Thank you.
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>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 8:20 PM, George Kolodner <gkolodner@kolmac.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>> Kathleen,
>>>>>>> An important part of the current plan is to make sure that everyone's treatment is protected and, at the same time, essential information is communicated reliably. I think that it would be disruptive to this plan for you to be involved with the level of details about Hunter's treatment that you are requesting. We will work out a schedule that we think is appropriate for Hunter's treatment and let you know if does not adhere to it.
>>>>>>> George Kolodner
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>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Kathleen Biden <kathleenbiden@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'm sorry the email upset you. I'm just looking for direction and advice. Difficult to get conflicting advice.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The girls and I are ready to support your out-patient program and hope you are feeling the support you need.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I included you to make sure we are all on the same page. I just want to do what is best for the girls and to help your sobriety.
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> On 17 Jun 2016, at 4:44 PM, hbiden@rosemontseneca.com wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the typos- very upsetting to me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> RHB
>>>>>>>>> 202-333-1880
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>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 4:43 PM, hbiden@rosemontseneca.com wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>> Dr. I have not given my consent for Kathleen to receive any information. I'd you want a unbiased 3rd party opinion about how the meeting pleas call Debbie right away.
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>>>>>>>>>> RHB
>>>>>>>>>> 202-333-1880
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>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 4:39 PM, Kathleen Biden <kathleenbiden@mac.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>> Ok. So I can be clear, the program is five days a week, he has nothing on weekends, he is tested every day? Is it appropriate for us to understand his commitment to program? I know that eventually it tapers but would be helpful to know when that happens. Is he also going to meetings every day?
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>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you
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>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17 Jun 2016, at 2:50 PM, George Kolodner <gkolodner@kolmac.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Kathleen,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am sorry to hear that you and your daughters are feeling such stress. My understanding of the current plan is:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Debbie will let you know if Hunter has relapsed or stop coming to the program so that you can restrict his contact with the girls.. We will not contact you as long as he is attending and abstinent.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Debbie and Elaine will be talking about their recommendation for the next contact -- I understand that Fathers Day is being considered -- and will call you after they have talked.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope that this helps to clarify the situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>> George Kolodner
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Kathleen Biden <kathleenbiden@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My girls were upset about their meeting with Debbie yesterday. They feel that the conflicting advice between specialists leaves them feeling like they have been put in the middle and don't know what they are suppose to do.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for me, I still would like to feel reassured that he is attending the program and being tested. I haven't gotten that and don't know what the best way to do it. I leave it to you all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want Hunter to be sober and live a life where he can feel good. I want to do what's best for him and protect my girls and their relationship with Hunter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the consensus is for Hunt to try out patient again, ok. If it's best for everyone for girls to resume talking and seeing Hunt, ok. They, and I, only want to do what is best for him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am exhausted and don't want to make the decisions. I want advice and will follow it. The girls feel like they have been left to make difficult decisions regarding their dad. I told them I'll support what the doctors and therapists recommend.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please help us to make the right decision to support Hunt's sobriety while protecting the well being of my daughters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, if you could agree on how best to notify me as to Hunt's attendance and test results, that would be helpful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> George Kolodner, M.D. DLFAPA FASAM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Medical Director
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kolmac Outpatient Recovery Centers
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>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> George Kolodner, M.D. DLFAPA FASAM
>>>>>>> Medical Director
>>>>>>> Kolmac Outpatient Recovery Center