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2014-06-19 23:24:28
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Lets discuss all of this Mike Leonard has been at the BHR offices all week he gets home tomorow night. He has sat with the team to get a clear picture of what the hell is going on over there so I can fill that in a bit The set up with HZ is a simple type of project where we might get stuf done and fees paid rapidly which will really help I agree in letting J know remember Henry and Andy are the real drivers of J Henry has the ability to get deals done and J listens to him. Andy is running the Giuxin LP process now and Henry is running the BOC LP process right now for J Lets talk at noon tomorrow all good points you raise On Thursday, June 19, 2014, Hunter Biden <hbiden@rosemontseneca.com> wrote: > One of the things we need to figure out is what RS entity. The BD is the > most obvious- makes the most sense from a business perspective, but I don't > know what FINRA says about foreign ownership. The other implied message I > got from M's email is- BHR is going no where from HZ's perspective. We (US) > have no capital and JL can't get over the goal line with his LPs, and > organizationally it's still a mess (at least from an LP point of view). > Moving to a direct relationship with HZ is a decision that we have to > include JL in- simply out of loyalty. > I've always said the fund structure is for suckers. Direct deals with > ready willing and able backers could be our bread and butter. But there are > a lot of factors to weigh here. > > RHB > 202.333.1880 > > On Jun 19, 2014, at 4:21 PM, James Bulger <jbulger@thorntonai.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jbulger@thorntonai.com');>> wrote: > > Noon it is I will call your office at noon folks > Thanks > Jimmy > > On Thursday, June 19, 2014, Katie Dodge <kdodge@rosemontseneca.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kdodge@rosemontseneca.com');>> wrote: > >> Hi Jimmy - >> Could we say noon instead? >> Hunter - you have a 10AM call and an 11:30 with Mike (rescheduled from >> today). >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Hunter Biden <hbiden@rosemontseneca.com> >> wrote: >> >>> 11:30? cc'd Katie- if that time doesn't work- whole day is open. >>> R. Hunter Biden >>> Rosemont Seneca Partners >>> Washington D.C. >>> 202-333-1880 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 19, 2014, at 1:57 PM, James Bulger <jbulger@thorntonai.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Today's hectic anytime tomorrow wide open what time works for you? >>> >>> On Thursday, June 19, 2014, Hunter Biden <hbiden@rosemontseneca.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Let's discuss today or tomorrow. You tell me. >>>> >>>> RHB >>>> 202.333.1880 >>>> >>>> On Jun 19, 2014, at 5:04 AM, James Bulger <jbulger@thorntonai.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hunter >>>> Michael Lin sent this email to me on June 3rd as a follow up to the >>>> lunch meeting we all had with Henry during our last visit to Beijing. >>>> Would you be available for a quick call with me around 11:00am today? >>>> Thanks >>>> Jimmy >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: *Michael Lin* <michael.c.l.lin@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 >>>> Subject: HZ >>>> To: Bulger James <jbulger123@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> HZ and I met again to discuss HB's request in Beijing. >>>> >>>> HZ, a practical manager with very respectable strategic mindset, while >>>> not saying no to HB's sitting on the board of one of his 3 directly >>>> controlled entries under his Group and his sitting on the board of RS or >>>> any one of RS's controlled entities, he prefers to do it in an even more >>>> solid, meaningful, organized and long-term beneficial win-win way. >>>> >>>> He told me the above using his usual soft and polite tone and I could >>>> feel pretty confidently that he was sending me the signal: “Yes, I can and >>>> am seriously consider to do it but let's not do it in a superficial way. >>>> Let's do it MY way. If we really do it, let's really co work closely to see >>>> business come to fruition under the right cooperation structure." >>>> >>>> HZ went: “I could feel that you lads are not really full of cash like >>>> we do. I can feel it from our recent BHR cooperation. That said, you guys >>>> do have respectable overseas network and Michael you are a good execution >>>> and guanxi guy... I like you guys' projects... especially the natural gas >>>> stuff and all the other high profile stuffs and the like... So, let's >>>> create a scenario where you don't need to worry the initial operational >>>> expenses but focus on getting deals done with you helping me...This is >>>> going to be different from our BHR cooperation... Let's establish a new JV >>>> between my Group or one of my Group's controlled entities and RS or one of >>>> RS's entities to do financial advisory/investment banking business. HB can >>>> sit on its board and so do I... Doing so, honestly speaking, is better than >>>> what HB proposed because we will really be "of the same entity" and working >>>> "under the same roof" whole-heartedly for those deals and you gents can >>>> continue to leverage my Group's brand name to do overseas business for us >>>> together as well as my Group's and my personal real network to talk to >>>> people in China. This is much more real than just I sitting on RS board and >>>> HB sitting on my board, which is sort of loose... I understand you are >>>> going to ask me about the JV capital thing. What I mean to propose is the >>>> following and I think it's going to be beneficial to both RS and our JV >>>> without you lads' actually having to inject a dime into the JV like in BHR >>>> and you need to help clearly explain to HB so that he'll understand... I >>>> can consider to get my Group or one of the 3 entities directly controlled >>>> by my Group to invest maybe a few million USD cash into RS and at the same >>>> time RS should invest “part” of that money into and form our discussed new >>>> JV to start kicking off the operations... I want to do it in a legit and >>>> legally OK way... I don't know exactly how much my Group should invest for >>>> now but I do know it has everything to do with how much RS is valued, how >>>> much % of ownership we should own at RS and how much money we need to fund >>>> the new JV, at least for its initial year or years... You talk to HB and >>>> get back to me. I hope you gents will understand this is a better way of >>>> cooperation for you as at least you gents need not put a cent into the new >>>> JV..." >>>> >>>> I think his way both perfectly answers HB's request and addresses our >>>> money and funding issue. >>>> >>>> Now, as our next step we need to answer HZ 1) how much is RS or any one >>>> of RS entities valued for HZ to invest? and 2) How much do we forecast we >>>> need for the new JV to kick off its operations for its initial year or >>>> years? >>>> >>>> Let's leave the answer of how much ownership % of RS to HZ to later >>>> discuss with us and decide once the valuation of RS is figured out. >>>> >>>> A conference call among you HB DA and I to discuss and for me to >>>> explain and answer queries regarding the above is advised. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> 发自我的 iPhone >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> James J. Bulger >>>> Chairman >>>> Thornton Group LLC >>>> 14 Beacon Street, Suite 804A >>>> Boston, MA 02108 >>>> Office tel: 617.248.9440 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> James J. Bulger >>> Chairman >>> Thornton Group LLC >>> 14 Beacon Street, Suite 804A >>> Boston, MA 02108 >>> Office tel: 617.248.9440 >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Katie Dodge* >> Executive Assistant/ Office Manager >> *Rosemont Seneca Partners* >> *1010 Wisconsin Ave., NW, #705* >> *Washington, DC 20007* >> *202-333-1880* >> > > > -- > James J. Bulger > Chairman > Thornton Group LLC > 14 Beacon Street, Suite 804A > Boston, MA 02108 > Office tel: 617.248.9440 > > -- James J. Bulger Chairman Thornton Group LLC 14 Beacon Street, Suite 804A Boston, MA 02108 Office tel: 617.248.944
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